Comments on: TiVo and the CCI Byte (My Frustration Continues) http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/ An Unofficial Blog dedicated to TiVo News, Information & Commentary. One of CNET News.com's Top 100 Blogs. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:59:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris Miller http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-389043 Chris Miller Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:13:09 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-389043 Jill, TWC corporate has pretty much tied the hands of the local TWC entities. As for the copy protection being required by the FCC, that is not true. Their contract with the programmers may dictate the usage the flags, but they are not being forced into this by the FCC. .-= Chris Miller´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChristopherMillersRandomThoughts/~3/gMqapP-0gDo/just-watched-movie-in-hd-using-amazon.html" rel="nofollow">Just watched a movie in HD using Amazon Video On Demand through my Tivo</a> =-. Jill,

TWC corporate has pretty much tied the hands of the local TWC entities. As for the copy protection being required by the FCC, that is not true. Their contract with the programmers may dictate the usage the flags, but they are not being forced into this by the FCC.
Chris Miller´s last blog ..Just watched a movie in HD using Amazon Video On Demand through my Tivo My ComLuv Profile

]]> By: Jill http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-389031 Jill Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:04:24 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-389031 Have there been any updates on this since the last blog update on Nov. 5? I use TWC in Austin, TX, and I just got Toast yesterday. Iwas so excited to start transfering programs through TiVoToGo, and I was crushed to see how many programs had that red X by it. I called TWC, and they claimed the copy protection tags were required by the FCC. Has anyone found a way to get them to change the settings to copy freely yet? Have there been any updates on this since the last blog update on Nov. 5? I use TWC in Austin, TX, and I just got Toast yesterday. Iwas so excited to start transfering programs through TiVoToGo, and I was crushed to see how many programs had that red X by it. I called TWC, and they claimed the copy protection tags were required by the FCC. Has anyone found a way to get them to change the settings to copy freely yet?

]]> By: Chris Miller http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-383804 Chris Miller Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:22:18 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-383804 It looks like Albany TWC is NOT changing the CCI byte to copy freely. They have been told by their corporate headquarters to leave the CCI settings as is. I was given this information from an Albany TWC employee. .-= Chris Miller´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChristopherMillersRandomThoughts/~3/gMqapP-0gDo/just-watched-movie-in-hd-using-amazon.html" rel="nofollow">Just watched a movie in HD using Amazon Video On Demand through my Tivo</a> =-. It looks like Albany TWC is NOT changing the CCI byte to copy freely. They have been told by their corporate headquarters to leave the CCI settings as is. I was given this information from an Albany TWC employee.
Chris Miller´s last blog ..Just watched a movie in HD using Amazon Video On Demand through my Tivo My ComLuv Profile

]]> By: David http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-382921 David Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:07:46 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-382921 Sorry to burst the "only TWC is blasting all channels with the crappy CCI cripple flag" In my area Comcast also did the same thing with all but the on air programming within the last 10 days and killed my MRV, Tivo to Go and Transfer to PC. Sorry to burst the “only TWC is blasting all channels with the crappy CCI cripple flag” In my area Comcast also did the same thing with all but the on air programming within the last 10 days and killed my MRV, Tivo to Go and Transfer to PC.

]]> By: D. Martinez http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-372189 D. Martinez Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:27:58 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-372189 I say we all rally around and tweet TWC! I live in Irving TX, I moved from a FIOS area where I had full tivo capabilities (in my house its BARNEY that needs to move to the spare TIVO *s*)...I say we pick a date to slam TWC with emails and tweets to force them to set to copy once. I emailed ROVI (formally macrovision) part of the response i received is as follows: You might also be interested in knowing that some copy protection technology allows for a single copy (‘Copy Once’) while others do not allow for even one copy (‘Copy Never’). For the particular channel/shows you mentioned (SyFy, Barney, Seasame Street), I would not expect those to be configured as ‘Copy Never’. ‘Copy Never’ is usually reserved only for Video On Demand (VOD) and/or Pay-Per-View (PPV) program material. So if TWC has a legit doc from the content provider those should be available for public viewing. I rang up TWC and got no where when I asked to view this document. I figure if it is something that the affects the consumer then it should be public notice. I found nothing on the websites of channel provicers (ie, BBC America, Syfy, etc.). The power of the internet is awesome and can be used to voice our opinion! I say we all rally around and tweet TWC! I live in Irving TX, I moved from a FIOS area where I had full tivo capabilities (in my house its BARNEY that needs to move to the spare TIVO *s*)…I say we pick a date to slam TWC with emails and tweets to force them to set to copy once. I emailed ROVI (formally macrovision) part of the response i received is as follows:

You might also be interested in knowing that some copy protection technology allows for a single copy (‘Copy Once’) while others do not allow for even one copy (‘Copy Never’). For the particular channel/shows you mentioned (SyFy, Barney, Seasame Street), I would not expect those to be configured as ‘Copy Never’. ‘Copy Never’ is usually reserved only for Video On Demand (VOD) and/or Pay-Per-View (PPV) program material.

So if TWC has a legit doc from the content provider those should be available for public viewing. I rang up TWC and got no where when I asked to view this document. I figure if it is something that the affects the consumer then it should be public notice. I found nothing on the websites of channel provicers (ie, BBC America, Syfy, etc.). The power of the internet is awesome and can be used to voice our opinion!

]]> By: SouthPaw http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-371643 SouthPaw Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:47:55 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-371643 I have written Certified letter to a few of the CCI Copy once channels I would like have changed to Copy Freely. The only reply I have received so far has been form NBC Universal about Syfy and Syfy HD they stated that their agreement with Time Warner Hudson Valley contains nothing about CCI byte settings. They also stated that could provide no assistance in getting Time Warner to change the setting. But I think that is enough Time Warner tried to pass the buck to NBC Universal say it was at their request. Now I know that is hog wash and the local reps just can't be bothered. I have written Certified letter to a few of the CCI Copy once channels I would like have changed to Copy Freely. The only reply I have received so far has been form NBC Universal about Syfy and Syfy HD they stated that their agreement with Time Warner Hudson Valley contains nothing about CCI byte settings. They also stated that could provide no assistance in getting Time Warner to change the setting. But I think that is enough Time Warner tried to pass the buck to NBC Universal say it was at their request. Now I know that is hog wash and the local reps just can’t be bothered.

]]> By: SouthPaw http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-370959 SouthPaw Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:32:29 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-370959 Yup PBS HD and CSPAN was encrypted QAM and CCI Flag of Copy Once. That is one of things I menioned in letter to Time Warner Network Operations Regional President that were using encrypted QAM and CCI Flag and that violated the Public broadcast and Public service licence with the FCC. Now PBS and CSPAN is encrypted QAM and CCI flag is copy freely. Now I hope they change CCI Flag on other channels. Removing encryption from the PBS and public service QAM channels will really help our local schools. They won't have to pay cable company for the cable boxes any more. Yup PBS HD and CSPAN was encrypted QAM and CCI Flag of Copy Once. That is one of things I menioned in letter to Time Warner Network Operations Regional President that were using encrypted QAM and CCI Flag and that violated the Public broadcast and Public service licence with the FCC. Now PBS and CSPAN is encrypted QAM and CCI flag is copy freely. Now I hope they change CCI Flag on other channels. Removing encryption from the PBS and public service QAM channels will really help our local schools. They won’t have to pay cable company for the cable boxes any more.

]]> By: Alex http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-370924 Alex Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:57:49 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-370924 Are you sure that PBS was copy once? My understanding is that TWC can't set broadcast channels to anything other than copy freely. Are you sure that PBS was copy once? My understanding is that TWC can’t set broadcast channels to anything other than copy freely.

]]> By: SouthPaw http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-370917 SouthPaw Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:24:54 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-370917 As of this morning 10/10/2009 Channel 713 - PBS HD and 715 - Discovery HD are now copy freely in the TWC Hudson Valley Region. I will check other channels but most are still Copy once. I called and TWC HVR still won't discuss the CCI Flag. As of this morning 10/10/2009 Channel 713 – PBS HD and 715 – Discovery HD are now copy freely in the TWC Hudson Valley Region. I will check other channels but most are still Copy once. I called and TWC HVR still won’t discuss the CCI Flag.

]]> By: SouthPaw http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-370494 SouthPaw Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:59:47 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-370494 I sent a Certified Letter to my Time Warner Network Operations Regional President about CCI Flag. They replied that CCI Flag settings are now at discretion of Local Head End Engineer. Trying to make appointment with Local Head End Engineer left Email and Cell #. Looks like Albany NY region has gotten things moving. Hope this bodes well for Hudson valley NY region. If not I had a call with My local Town supervisor about having Technology committee file a formal complaint with Time Warner. They are required to give a written response with real reason explaining issue. I sent a Certified Letter to my Time Warner Network Operations Regional President about CCI Flag. They replied that CCI Flag settings are now at discretion of Local Head End Engineer. Trying to make appointment with Local Head End Engineer left Email and Cell #. Looks like Albany NY region has gotten things moving. Hope this bodes well for Hudson valley NY region.

If not I had a call with My local Town supervisor about having Technology committee file a formal complaint with Time Warner. They are required to give a written response with real reason explaining issue.

]]> By: AlbanyHDTV http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-370483 AlbanyHDTV Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:59:43 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-370483 A member of the AlbanyHDTV.com webiste has posted that he has successfully negotiated with Albany TWC to reduce the CCI Byte on all channels except premiums and PPV. Check it out here: http://albanyhdtv.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=boxes&action=display&thread=3221&page=1 A member of the AlbanyHDTV.com webiste has posted that he has successfully negotiated with Albany TWC to reduce the CCI Byte on all channels except premiums and PPV. Check it out here:
http://albanyhdtv.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=boxes&action=display&thread=3221&page=1

]]> By: Brian http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369997 Brian Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:53:52 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369997 Did some tests here today with my TiVo HD and TWC. I tested with iTiVo and many networks are blocked here in Orange County too... :'( Did some tests here today with my TiVo HD and TWC.

I tested with iTiVo and many networks are blocked here in Orange County too… :’(

]]> By: AlbanyHDTV http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369835 AlbanyHDTV Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:50:04 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369835 After we got the Tuning Adapter here in Albany, NY, I started this thread at TiVo Community: Tuning Adapter: YES!...Now onto the CCI flag http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=417139 There hasn't been any posts since February 2009. After becoming very frustrated that I could not use TTG or MRV with either of my TiVoHD units, I activated an old Series2 unit. In order to transfer shows to my daughter's ipod, I use this Series2 TiVo to transfer to my computer via TiVo Desktop Plus and then convert it for an ipod. I am VERY INTERESTED to see how you fare with TWC. They have basically ignored my requests to change the CCI byte here in Albany, NY. After we got the Tuning Adapter here in Albany, NY, I started this thread at TiVo Community:

Tuning Adapter: YES!…Now onto the CCI flag
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=417139

There hasn’t been any posts since February 2009.

After becoming very frustrated that I could not use TTG or MRV with either of my TiVoHD units, I activated an old Series2 unit. In order to transfer shows to my daughter’s ipod, I use this Series2 TiVo to transfer to my computer via TiVo Desktop Plus and then convert it for an ipod.

I am VERY INTERESTED to see how you fare with TWC. They have basically ignored my requests to change the CCI byte here in Albany, NY.

]]> By: Chris Miller http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369832 Chris Miller Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:39:58 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369832 Please let know how this works out for you. I would like to TWC of Albany NY to clear the CCI byte. I'll take any tip that you can provide for getting the cable co to change this setting. .-= Chris Miller´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChristopherMillersRandomThoughts/~3/-n1Qjo1fvIU/i-dont-care-who-signs-petition-roman.html" rel="nofollow">I don’t care who signs a petition, Roman Polanski is a convicted sexual predator who needs to do his time.</a> =-. Please let know how this works out for you. I would like to TWC of Albany NY to clear the CCI byte. I’ll take any tip that you can provide for getting the cable co to change this setting.
Chris Miller´s last blog ..I don’t care who signs a petition, Roman Polanski is a convicted sexual predator who needs to do his time. My ComLuv Profile

]]> By: Carlton Bale http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369679 Carlton Bale Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:47:38 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369679 This is exactly why I ditched cable/satellite and went to OTA antenna and Netflix. .-= Carlton Bale´s last blog ..<a href="http://carltonbale.com/2009/09/professional-installer-takes-credit-for-my-work/" rel="nofollow">Professional Installer Takes Credit for my Family Room</a> =-. This is exactly why I ditched cable/satellite and went to OTA antenna and Netflix.
Carlton Bale´s last blog ..Professional Installer Takes Credit for my Family Room My ComLuv Profile

]]> By: Chung http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369672 Chung Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:04:59 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369672 Good luck! I've been running into the same problems. No need to rehash, but my frustration matches yours, and can't wait to see if Time Warner ever resolves this. Good luck! I’ve been running into the same problems. No need to rehash, but my frustration matches yours, and can’t wait to see if Time Warner ever resolves this.

]]> By: Doug http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369661 Doug Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:56:42 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369661 Keep up the good fight Alex! .-= Doug´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SpectralReview-GhostVampireSpiritAndParanormalNews/~3/eIfnGbqa18I/" rel="nofollow">Almost Here – Ghost Lab “Disturbing the Peace”</a> =-. Keep up the good fight Alex!
Doug´s last blog ..Almost Here – Ghost Lab “Disturbing the Peace” My ComLuv Profile

]]> By: SouthPaw http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369605 SouthPaw Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:17:27 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369605 Opps messed up the html tags sorry Opps messed up the html tags sorry

]]> By: SouthPaw http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369604 SouthPaw Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:15:13 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369604 Another Write up of CCI Flag. <a href="http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1461/cciflag.png" title="CCI Flag Write UP" rel="nofollow"> FYI: It is against the channel FCC License to place CCI Flag or encrypt PBS and Public service Channels. (But they do it anyway!)</a> Another Write up of CCI Flag.

FYI: It is against the channel FCC License to place CCI Flag or encrypt PBS and Public service Channels. (But they do it anyway!)

]]> By: Alex http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369602 Alex Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:57:22 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369602 Be sure to keep us posted. .-= Alex´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/tivoblog/~3/AOexM9HfoGI/" rel="nofollow">TiVo and the CCI Byte (My Frustration Continues)</a> =-. Be sure to keep us posted.
Alex´s last blog ..TiVo and the CCI Byte (My Frustration Continues) My ComLuv Profile

]]> By: SouthPaw http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369601 SouthPaw Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:54:01 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369601 Working With TWC Hudson Valley NY to Change CCI Flag. Tivo said to contact FCC but I think that might irritate them and get me no were. Working With TWC Hudson Valley NY to Change CCI Flag. Tivo said to contact FCC but I think that might irritate them and get me no were.

]]> By: Brian http://www.tivoblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/tivo-and-the-cci-byte-my-frustration-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-369599 Brian Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:36:02 +0000 http://www.tivoblog.com/?p=3997#comment-369599 I sure hoe you work this worked out and look forwared to the update. I myself just got a TiVo HD and have TWC in North Orange County CA. I was mortified when I discovered this was a problem with TWC !!! I have yet not had time to try TiVoToGo here to see if it works yet for me. I sure hoe you work this worked out and look forwared to the update.

I myself just got a TiVo HD and have TWC in North Orange County CA.
I was mortified when I discovered this was a problem with TWC !!!

I have yet not had time to try TiVoToGo here to see if it works yet for me.

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