TiVo Vs. Windows MCE (Media Center Edition) For The Average Budget Minded Consumer

In my opinion, most tech geeks are a little uppity. They tend to think that the best solution for most problems is more technology and bigger/better systems that cost more money. I know that I’m guilty of this. After all, I’ve been trying to convince my wife for the past couple of months that we need a Mac in the kitchen. After all, how can we go on with our life without a $1400 email checking machine in the kitchen? That being said, most tech geeks are excited with Microsoft’s MCE (Media Center Edition). On the surface the device/operating system looks like a great deal. After all, everybody should have a full-blown PC in their living room right? Wrong! MCE is a great option for a tech geek who has an unlimited budget. This is not the case for the majority of consumers out there. In my opinion, the average consumer wants a device that just works. They don’t want to have to mess around with another Windows box in their living room. Take my family for example, my in-laws would love to be able to record their favorite shows and watch them when they want to. The only thing that they don’t want to have to do is learn how to use a Windows PC. My father in-law is what you would call computer illiterate. He doesn’t know how to use a computer and he doesn’t want to learn. Do you think I could sell him on getting a MCE box when the device is going to hit him hard in the wallet and he is going to have to learn a little bit about how to use a PC? I think not!

That being said, I would like to dedicate the rest of this post to compare the cost of a TiVo to the cost of an average MCE box. After all, most consumers don’t want to pay out the wazoo just to record their favorite TV shows and watch them at another time. If you are a tech geek then maybe this article isn’t for you. MCE has a lot of great features; however, for the cost I just can’t see getting an MCE box when you can get a TiVo for next to nothing. The rest of this post will hopefully convince you as well….


Ok, let’s start by taking the average cost of a middle of the road MCE box. To do this, I’ll head on over to Dell. The Dell that I configured has a 90-day warranty, and some decent hardware including 160 HD and 512 MB RAM. After shipping and handling the device comes to $1,077.49! In terms of a PC, this is pretty cheap. You could go cheaper, however if you did, I’m not sure that you would be happy with your experience. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is pretty much the cheapest you can get into a decent MCE box (Microsoft’s cheapest MCE box is: $1,299.99). That being said, you can get a 40 hour TiVo for $49.00 after rebate. If you want, you could upgrade to the 300 hour TiVo for $199.99 after rebate. Ok, I know what you are thinking; an MCE box doesn’t require a subscription. You’re right on that one, TiVo requires a one-year subscription at $12.95/month ($155.40/year). If you want, you could skip the monthly subscription model and go with a lifetime subscription for $299.

Ok, now that we’ve outlined all of the costs, let’s look at which option is more cost effective for the average consumer.

  • Decent Dell MCE Box (one tuner): ~$1,077.49
  • 300 HR TiVo Box with lifetime subscription: ~$498.90
  • 40 HR TiVo with lifetime subscription: ~$348.00

As you can see, even with a lifetime subscription, the top of the line TiVo box costs a lot less then a middle of the road MCE system. Essentially you could buy 2.159731409100020044097013429545 top of the line TiVo boxes for the cost of one MCE box. If you want to look at the “low” end TiVo you could purchase 3.0962356321839080459770114942529 TiVo’s for the cost of one MCE box. When you break it down like this I think you can see that TiVo with a lifetime subscription is in fact a better deal for a budget minded consumer.

In order for this post to be legit, I need to have a couple of “disclaimers”. First of all, an MCE box is a fully functioning PC. It’s kind of hard to compare a TiVo to this type of device. While a TiVo is great, it’s rather hard to use your TiVo to help pay your credit card bill online. An MCE box inherently has more features then a TiVo box has. The point of this article wasn’t to compare an MCE box’s features to a TiVo. Instead, what I’ve attempted to do was to explain why a TiVo is more cost effective for the “average” consumer. In my opinion, most consumers don’t want a $1,077.49 PC in their living room. If you want a PC in the living room then a better option would be to buy a laptop and use this device while you watch your favorite shows on your TiVo :) . One more thing, I don’t consider myself to be an MCE expert. As a matter of fact, I am more of an MCE newbie. The device has always interested me, however, I don’t think I am going to try and convince my father in-law to purchase one.

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11 comments to TiVo Vs. Windows MCE (Media Center Edition) For The Average Budget Minded Consumer

  • [...] Just a quick post on some pros and cons of Tivo vs. Windows Media Center Edition. Good article here. [...]

  • [...] Thomas Hawk pointed me to an interesting piece written by Alex Raiano at the official TiVo Blog comparing MCE to TiVo. [...]

  • yardman

    lol what a funny guy….Of course you or gonna say everything you can against MCE what’s the name of your BLOG “tivoblog”.

    You can’t be trusted to give a unbiased opinion.

    The MCE learning curve is not too different from tivo’s curve…my 4 year old cousin is able to use my MCE box.
    My MCE setup press power button on remote MCE come’s on, press live tv…what you know tv comes on.

    Anyone who can’t do must be an idot.

  • Yardman,
    If you read my entire post you would have noticed that I didn’t say MCE was horrible. The only point I was trying to make was that for $1200 the average consumer is better off purchasing a TiVo or even 3 TiVos. MCE seems to be a great product. As a matter of fact, when I purchase my next computer I will probably buy it for myself…

  • Comparing TiVo and things like MCE doesn’t make lots of sense when you think about it, comparing MCE and products like MythTV is a little bit more appropriate.

    I will say one thing though, my boss has a MCE PC, and he liked it well enough, but when he got an unbelievable deal on a TiVo (effectively free thanks to an ad misprint) he picked one up and likes it much better, his wife, which never went near the MCE PC took to the TiVo easily.

  • J Web

    What your comparison fails to account for is that with PC based PVRs, I can infinitely add tuners and HD space and then stream the content throughout the home. With TiVo, you need multiple TiVos who don’t communicate with one another as effectively as PC based PVRs. When you start adding up the cost of accessing PVR content throughout the home, PC based is much cheaper and easier to use.

    Appreciate the blog effort though, now we have an open forum to challenge TiVo on their marketing strategies.

  • Mike Garcen (ShadyMG - MCE MVP)

    I don’t think there’s anyone, myself included, that wouldn’t recommend a TIVO if the ONLY thing a user wanted was a DVR. I still think the TIVO interface is cleaner & definitely more basic for beginner users.

    However, if anyone wants Video, photos, music, and the list goes on & on, that’s where it puts MCE in a whole other division that should not be compared, at least to a tivo.

    Nice article though :-)

  • Mike

    I am an avid MCE user myself and did find this comparison to be very fair. I am a technophile and therefore building a MCE machine was a lot of fun. I went with the MCE route because I also needed a good gaming system as well as record TV. So in my case, MCE made much more sense. Also, I like the using my big screen tv to display photos and use it as a music hub as well.

    However, if I just wanted to record and watch TV and didnt’ need a computer or had a good gaming pc already, Tivo would have been the way to go as the article points out, a $500 dvr is much more appealing than a $1200 device.

    On the ease of use end, I dont’ think MCE is any harder to use than a Tivo. Buying it preconfigured, basically all the user has to do is turn the machine on and use the remote control for all the different activities such as watching TV, ect.

  • MCE: Has High Def recording (antenna) and will have soon. That is a pretty good selling point.

    Plus MCE could be a computer upstairs and then would stream the TV to your Xbox360. . .a cool feature.

  • Richard Kalajian

    Just bought a DELL 8400 MCE with Dual Tuner, Remote, 3.2Ghz 640 P4, Raid SATA w/2 160GB Drives, Radeon 850 XT PE, 1GB RAM, Audigt 2 ZS, Couple DBD Drives and more. $874 including Tax and Shipping.

    Important points. This will play every single game available now and for at least a year or so. Replaces XBOX 360. Also, try and search for things that you want to record with TIVO, like actors, themes. Typing with a remote is idiotic (sorry). Typing should be done with a keyboard.

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